Comments on: Coldfusion is Dying? http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/ 技术任意 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:36:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ziggy http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-2008 ziggy Sat, 26 May 2007 06:02:03 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-2008 <p>Just a follow-up:</p> <p>74,600 for inurl:cfm site:vn 1,420,000 for inurl:php site:vn 1,900,000 for inurl:asp site:vn</p> <p>374,000 for inurl:cfm site:th 1,730,000 for inurl:php site:th 1,290,000 for inurl:asp site:th</p> <p>446,000 for inurl:cfm site:my 1,290,000 for inurl:php site:my 1,210,000 for inurl:asp site:my</p> <p>So CF seems to run at 25-35% of others except in Vietnam where it's at 3%. Again, CF is commonly available for $1 in these countries which can't be discounted, both literally and figuratively :-)</p> <p>Obviously these figures all depend on country domain pages google picks up, not actual usage in countries.</p> Just a follow-up:

74,600 for inurl:cfm site:vn 1,420,000 for inurl:php site:vn 1,900,000 for inurl:asp site:vn

374,000 for inurl:cfm site:th 1,730,000 for inurl:php site:th 1,290,000 for inurl:asp site:th

446,000 for inurl:cfm site:my 1,290,000 for inurl:php site:my 1,210,000 for inurl:asp site:my

So CF seems to run at 25-35% of others except in Vietnam where it’s at 3%. Again, CF is commonly available for $1 in these countries which can’t be discounted, both literally and figuratively :-)

Obviously these figures all depend on country domain pages google picks up, not actual usage in countries.

]]> By: ziggy http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-2007 ziggy Sat, 26 May 2007 05:12:24 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-2007 <p>>>only 1 million+ chinese sites using Coldfusion</p> <p>Thank you Googlemaster :-) But that's pages, not sites, no?</p> <p>And that's because they're probably using pirated copies! Coldfusion costs $1 in Asia. But I know where I am few use it anyway.</p> <p>But goes back to my point about a free server... :-)</p> <p>Our of curiosity:</p> <p>1,430,000 for inurl:cfm site:cn 3,730,000 for inurl:php site:cn 4,200,000 for inurl:asp site:cn.</p> >>only 1 million+ chinese sites using Coldfusion

Thank you Googlemaster :-) But that’s pages, not sites, no?

And that’s because they’re probably using pirated copies! Coldfusion costs $1 in Asia. But I know where I am few use it anyway.

But goes back to my point about a free server… :-)

Our of curiosity:

1,430,000 for inurl:cfm site:cn 3,730,000 for inurl:php site:cn 4,200,000 for inurl:asp site:cn.

]]> By: ColdFusion Not Dead - But It Could Be Better http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1996 ColdFusion Not Dead - But It Could Be Better Fri, 25 May 2007 13:10:23 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1996 <p>[...] Rob Rohan [...]</p> [...] Rob Rohan [...]

]]> By: duncan http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1995 duncan Fri, 25 May 2007 07:51:06 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1995 <p>Ziggy, only 1 million+ chinese sites using Coldfusion: http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=inurl%3Acfm+site%3Acn&btnG=Google+Search&meta=</p> Ziggy, only 1 million+ chinese sites using Coldfusion: http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=inurl%3Acfm+site%3Acn&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

]]> By: Jono http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 Jono Fri, 25 May 2007 04:35:57 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1994 <p>hmmm, I think its a bit too late to turn around to complete with .NET and JAVA and PHP. Let's face the reality that coldfusion is heading the same way as Director heading!(MM tried to change Lingo to Javscript at the end! but too late). what Adobe can do now(only way) is to make Coldfusion like Severside FLEX! use AS3 as default language and MXML or CFComponent as the Markup componet...tie it up with Flash to survive!</p> hmmm, I think its a bit too late to turn around to complete with .NET and JAVA and PHP. Let’s face the reality that coldfusion is heading the same way as Director heading!(MM tried to change Lingo to Javscript at the end! but too late). what Adobe can do now(only way) is to make Coldfusion like Severside FLEX! use AS3 as default language and MXML or CFComponent as the Markup componet…tie it up with Flash to survive!

]]> By: ziggy http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1993 ziggy Fri, 25 May 2007 02:41:00 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1993 <p>833 isn't much, is it :-(</p> <p>I live in Asia in one of the fastest growing countries in the world: no one learns or uses CF. Are they learning CF in China and elsewhere? I doubt it.</p> <p>Adobe/MM/CF have done a poor job promoting a good technology. Until there is a free server and some killer open-source apps, cf will continue to cling to expensive sales and dwindle apart from that.</p> 833 isn’t much, is it :-(

I live in Asia in one of the fastest growing countries in the world: no one learns or uses CF. Are they learning CF in China and elsewhere? I doubt it.

Adobe/MM/CF have done a poor job promoting a good technology. Until there is a free server and some killer open-source apps, cf will continue to cling to expensive sales and dwindle apart from that.

]]> By: Rey Bango http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1992 Rey Bango Fri, 25 May 2007 01:09:30 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1992 <p>I have 833 reasons why ComputerWorld is off:</p> <p>http://www.gotcfm.com/thelist.cfm</p> I have 833 reasons why ComputerWorld is off:

http://www.gotcfm.com/thelist.cfm

]]> By: Darin Kadrioski http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1991 Darin Kadrioski Fri, 25 May 2007 00:55:48 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1991 <p>Don't see Delphi there anywhere either.. list is very suspect.</p> Don’t see Delphi there anywhere either.. list is very suspect.

]]> By: Rob http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1990 Rob Fri, 25 May 2007 00:06:01 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1990 <p>I don't know why, but there seems to be a need every three or four months for someone in the press to print this kind of article about the death of ColdFusion.</p> <p>Of course, every journalism class in the world teaches that part of good journalistic practice is to run stories wherein you don't quote any actual sources, or talk to anyone that's actually using the product, or anyone from the company responsible for the product.</p> <p>For every anecdotal story about someone dumping CF in favor of PHP or .NET, I guarantee that you can find an anecdotal story of someone dumping PHP or .NET in favor of CF. The real story - which I'll bet anything ComputerWorld will not have the integrity to print a follow-up on - will come in the third quarter this year, when Adobe starts shipping CF8. If this story has any truth at all, then it will be a huge flop, possibly endangering Adobe's bottom line. And you know what? I absolutely guarantee that Adobe knows one hell of a lot more about the true stats of the usage of ColdFusion than any moron who is writing for a technology paper because he couldn't get a real job in technology, and I guarantee that they would not be spending the time and money to develop CF8 if it really was dead.</p> I don’t know why, but there seems to be a need every three or four months for someone in the press to print this kind of article about the death of ColdFusion.

Of course, every journalism class in the world teaches that part of good journalistic practice is to run stories wherein you don’t quote any actual sources, or talk to anyone that’s actually using the product, or anyone from the company responsible for the product.

For every anecdotal story about someone dumping CF in favor of PHP or .NET, I guarantee that you can find an anecdotal story of someone dumping PHP or .NET in favor of CF. The real story – which I’ll bet anything ComputerWorld will not have the integrity to print a follow-up on – will come in the third quarter this year, when Adobe starts shipping CF8. If this story has any truth at all, then it will be a huge flop, possibly endangering Adobe’s bottom line. And you know what? I absolutely guarantee that Adobe knows one hell of a lot more about the true stats of the usage of ColdFusion than any moron who is writing for a technology paper because he couldn’t get a real job in technology, and I guarantee that they would not be spending the time and money to develop CF8 if it really was dead.

]]> By: Hilary Bridel http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-1989 Hilary Bridel Thu, 24 May 2007 23:38:50 +0000 http://robrohan.com/2007/05/24/coldfusion-is-dying/#comment-1989 <p>I work in the Health system in Sydney Australia, and I can tell you that in NSW, Health have officialy stopped using CF for new projects.</p> <p>Why? Because they did a deal with the devil (M$) and are now an MS shop.</p> <p>Coldfusion is dead here - and I am re-training in .NET :-(</p> I work in the Health system in Sydney Australia, and I can tell you that in NSW, Health have officialy stopped using CF for new projects.

Why? Because they did a deal with the devil (M$) and are now an MS shop.

Coldfusion is dead here – and I am re-training in .NET :-(

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